Can social workers just come in and search your home - Family Rights Group (2023)

Can social workers just come in and search your home

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Postafter4 princesses»Mon, February 11, 2019 at 3:51 p.m

Hi, I'm a mom of 4 girls. Separated from her husband in April 2018 due to domestic violence and abuse. I moved across the county with my girlfriends in October. Because of the husband who poisoned the dog 3 times and destroyed 3 of my cars and threats. I have a restraining order and a seal. I've been in court since April because of the contact arrangement. Social services were involved because my husband said I was neglecting my girls because of my depression and anxiety. He was jealous because I found a new partner. My husband made up lies about him. Social services sided with my husband from the last district. The council investigated this and found that social services had a problem with the pile of reports because they were sharing information about me with my husband, which only fed his control. Since April, I have dealt with more than 30 police officers. They didn't speak to my husband until 5 minutes later, at which point they were told there was nothing they could do because the time limit was up. The case was transferred to a new district with social services. I did everything they asked me to do. I even split up with my new partner because of all the stress they caused us. Social services make up lies in these reports, and when I show them evidence to discredit these claims, they treat me like a child. My husband manipulated them even if they talked to my four girls about what their dad did to me and them. They have also seen the picture but have no problem with him about protection. My girls were upset about staying with him over Christmas and the social worker said you have to go. It hit my second youngest that week. Found out in the contact center in front of three employees. Social services spoke to my four girls 9 days later but spoke to my husband the next day after my daughter made a statement to three contact center staff. They put that report in that he denies hitting her, that he beat her, and they said I planned it all. On Friday, social services showed up with a report and said they had the right to check my house because they didn't believe I had split up with my partner. They went through all my clean/dirty laundry and even looked in the machines. I went through all the closets and cabinets under the kids' beds and went through my tampons and pads. Can they do it? I have nothing to hide except the feeling that they are abusing their powers. I have no family because I had to flee my hometown because I was abused and raped by my father who was released at the end of August 2018. I feel so alone and I am waiting for funds to be secured for a lawyer. Any advice would be truly appreciated. I spoke to a GP, Citizens Advice. Rape and abuse counseling. I'm waiting for the mental health team. My girls mean everything to me and I just want to protect them. I feel that there is no justice in this world for my girls and me. My girls don't want to see their father, but they are being forced to by social services and the court because of the report made by social services. Full of love

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PostafterPerfectly safe dad»Tuesday, February 12, 2019 at 3:28 am

Hi, I'm no expert, but I'm pretty sure they have no right to enter your home, let alone perform an intrusive search. Only the police can do that, and even they must have a search warrant. You have every right to refuse to accept any social service person into your home. They would have to go and get the help of the police + a court order (they would have to give the judge enough evidence that it is an emergency, that your children are in danger).
The only problem is, if you refuse SS admission, they will use that as an excuse to be suspicious and gather evidence to get that warrant.
Your choice: If you don't want them in, say 'no' and then call the police on them if they don't take 'no' for an answer.
They are bullies, they think they can bypass the law and human rights and take advantage of you if you appear vulnerable or not very intelligent. Keep recording their lies to show you're not a fool, and the sooner you get that lawyer, the better.
They obviously don't know what the hell they're doing with your case, but they'll pretend they do and never admit they've done anything wrong.
Also; try not to let them know about any mental health problems you have, including your rape counseling. Just present yourself as organized and healthy as possible. If they know about it, make sure you have evidence that you are well treated and under control (eg GP prescription, proof of medication) and keep a record of the counseling you have done because if they know about it, they will use it as a reason to do more they bully your parenting more, forcing you into courses of their choosing and declaring you a 'risk' to your children until these things are done.
Give them as few excuses as possible to interfere in your life, unless you desperately feel that you need them to defend against the abusive men in your life. They are dangerous. The system is dangerous. It's chaos.

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Postafter4 princesses»Tuesday, February 12, 2019 at 7:41 p.m

Thank you very much for the advice, it means a lot to me. I feel so bullied and alone. I've done everything they ask, but it never seems good enough. I started filming them without them knowing. Once I told social services in the last district they made me delete it and said I had no right to film them in my home. I had to learn a lot since April because my husband had control over all the finances, but he had additional control over me. He bought clothes for me and the children, we weren't out loud to choose for ourselves. I had to send him shopping lists every week. Washing and ironing and the house had to be cleaned every day, and dinner at 6 every night. In the end I had to go bankrupt because he took out credit cards and store cards in my name. And when I moved out, he was still trying. He even reported me for fraud on my NatWest current account which was open to accounts only. He is an intelligent man who went to a private school in South Africa. Compared to me. He hacked my email and Facebook account. It took away all my confidence and I was afraid to leave the house during the day, except for school runs and children's parties. I lived like that for 12 years, so it's a big change to try to discover who I am and what I love. Social services sent me to a parenting course, but he didn't have to. I am the one who raised my four girls for the last 12 years. It took me 5 tries because of my anxiety and panic attacks. Sorry, you can tell me to zip it up if you want.

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PostafterPerfectly safe dad»Tuesday, February 12, 2019 at 8:16 p.m

Don't worry, go ahead with it as long as you want, I know all too well that it is a desperate experience when we are victims of social service interference. At the very least, we need to vent. Just to remind you, I'm not an expert, definitely not in 'family law' - who really is? It seems to me that this is a barbaric mess, in which the strongest - i.e. social services - are caught and dragged through and too often come out on top. By staying in control, keeping records, and trying to do no wrong, the little person can still win.
Wait for 'Suzie' to hear back from counsel to clarify your legal position, but you need a family law attorney who is fully versed in your situation.
By the way, I'm an indecent pic (internet) EX-felon, came on here a while ago after social services took away my right to be a dad, even though the investigation and my family history and career history prove my 'things' ' had nothing to do with my own children nor any contact offense against anyone. I got a prison sentence that is nearing its end, without a prison sentence. I'm ashamed of it (as are most, but the more we say it, the more intransigent and cynical the protection brigade seems to be). We all go to dark places sometimes and just want to put it behind us. I'm open about this, because I don't want you to think I'm some jerk trying to trick you, especially after everything you've been through.
There is no proportion in the way social services operate. They are manic. They think they can impose their own life sentences on people. We're all human, except for them, they're machines who don't care who they hurt as long as it's not them.
Good luck, you sound like a strong mom and they are lucky to have you. Watch your step with visiting or calling SS.
By the way, you have every right to record them, as long as you keep those recordings for private use - or (I'm not 100% sure about this) to use them as evidence for a judge if you go to family court

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Postafter4 princesses»Wednesday, February 13, 2019, 6:27 p.m

Thank you for your reply and for being honest about your situation. It's bad how they can take away your right to be a dad. You made those babies with your other half. The amount of posts I've seen online about people being accused without evidence. Social services have a crystal ball and can see into the future. There are many innocent people whose children were taken away. There are kids out there who really need help, but they are harassing innocent families. It's bad, especially because in my situation, me and my girlfriends are the victims, but he's not convicted because of police negligence, and then they side with him, and I'm under a magnifying glass. They will continue to record and record and gather evidence of their lies. My girls are starting to dread the end of the week again because they know they have to go and stay with him. My girls have no voice. They wrote down their wishes. But they don't pay attention. I gave them a spare phone to call the police if he hurt them again. The thing is, he'll get away with it again. I just have to keep fighting for my girls. I know the day will come when he will seriously hurt one of themsocial services will get out of it as they did over Christmas.

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PostafterPerfectly safe dad»Wednesday, February 13, 2019 at 9:17 p.m

Thank you, that means a lot to me too. I try not to paint them black and try to believe that they will be reasonable and make the right decisions, but I have yet to see evidence of that. Once they decide there is a 'risk' and open a case against you, they grab anything and everything they can, they just never give up or admit mistakes, like the time it took them 3 months to do a DBS check friends monitor my contact visits. One of their staff fell ill and the paperwork got lost, meanwhile my sons aged 11 and 13 were wondering how long it would be before they saw me again. No apologies, because I guess I'm a scumbag criminal, and they're big 'protectors'. That's BS. Yeah, they're like a bunch of witches with 'crystal balls'. It's amazing what they get away with, but thousands of little kids who need help don't get it. Anyway, sorry to voice my moans when this is your topic!
I hope you get some good advice soon. Just try to be the perfect parent (as if!) and hopefully things will work out.

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PostafterSuzie, SRN adviser»Friday, February 15, 2019 at 5:16 p.m

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Postafter4 princesses»Tuesday, February 19, 2019 at 7:21 p.m

Dear Suzie. Thank you for your reply . My ex partner had fraud on his record and it was revealed in Clare's Law. I thought Clara's Law was for domestic violence. He had no domestic violence there. They say me and my children are in danger because of his cheating past. I said, well, when you're telling me he's going to be punished for his past mistakes no matter who he ends up with, they said yes.
My ex partner never lived here, he used to stay a few nights a week and that was it. He never had a toothbrush or anything like that here. They just showed up at my door accusing me of calling the police on my ex-husband again. I finally burst into flames because I was fed up with being accused of things I didn't do. I told them you intend to be there to protect my children and yourself. I told them you write pages in your reports about the police being called to his house for drugs and yet there is no evidence to prove that I did anything. he says it's me and they blame me. I said he was probably getting people to call to identify it as me so they could harass me more. I said again his manipulation and your jumping around, I said don't you think that's what he wants more control and all you're doing is feeding him. Then they asked why your blinds and curtains were drawn. I replied because because the dog barks and because the neighbors keep peeking into the daughter's room down the stairs, I said is it now a crime to want privacy in one's own home. They said I was trying to hide things. What they meant was that you are hiding your ex-partner. Then they said we have the right to enter. I said no I don't, I have legal advice and was told you can't enter without a warrant, a warrant or a police officer. they didn't like that.
They had no proof that my ex-partner was here. They didn't give a referral, they said they checked out loud. I know he will play with my mental health again. They don't understand the stress my husband and they caused me a year ago. I'm getting to the stage of why should I continue. All I ever did was protect my girls. They accused me of threatening them because I said I would blame them when my husband hurt the girls again and I would take it to the MP and the papers because they didn't protect me. I said that I will never escape him because he will always have some kind of control over me. Due to social services and me having to end our relationship, I am no longer isolated and have no one to talk to or have my back. I feel so lost and alone. Thanks Suzie for your reply. A nice greeting

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Postafter4 princesses»Tuesday, February 19, 2019, 7:30 p.m

Perfectlysafe dad, it's okay to vent we all need. It's not funny, the two districts I've worked with are the same and never admit mistakes. It's amazing how they take sides with a lack of evidence. I hope that one day you will be able to be a father to your children again. I can't imagine being kept away from my babies. I miss my ex partner very much, he was my rock and kept me strong. I feel so exhausted and down right now. I know we will both get through this even though it seems never ending. I'm here if you ever need to talk. A nice greeting

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Postafterprinceza1981»Monday, May 23, 2022 at 00:09

It's even worse when the quoter was a policeman. I am currently 8 months pregnant and have been trying to get answers for 6 months because he kidnapped my two sons and then threw them at the door of the SS. He got me a section under the mental health act and it keeps turning up etc. because I'm pregnant I changed my name etc. but ss I keep giving him details I can't get a ban because there's not enough evidence etc. I feel for you until 2018. I would never believe it how does ss treat you